Community forum December 2107

7th December 2017

Community forum 9th December

A Community Forum

To discuss

Swindon Local Plan Review’s

“Issues and Options” Questions 

9th December 1.00pm to 3.00pm

at Health Hydro – Milton Rd bath

(Parking at Central Community Centre or Brunel Car Parks in Farnsby St.)

(Disabled Parking outside Health Hydro)

*Due to Swindon B.C.’s 19th December deadline for responses.

There will be further opportunities in 2018, but this is the first

chance to help shape the document and there is a deadline!

Please contact: if you can attend.

Community Organisations and active citizens are welcome to discuss together some of the important questions being asked at the start of a year-long process of reviewing and updating Swindon’s Local Plan, the key document which will lead up to 2036!  It may help to hear what other Swindon groups and people think?

Some of the 34 Questions Posed:

* Are there any cross-boundary planning issues that the Council  should consider in preparing the Local Plan Review?

* Do you agree with the objectives set out for the plan area?

* Please suggest any changes that you think should be made to the objectives for the Local Plan Review.

*How should the plan balance the short-term need for additional housing with the longer-term development strategy for the area?

*Are there any specific or broad locations that you think may be suitable to accommodate housing development?

*Are there any other sites you think may be suitable to   accommodate business (office and industrial uses)?

* Do you have any views or suggestions for how planning policies can support the advancement of the regeneration of Swindon’s  central area and the enhancement of its role, to improve the  image of the town?

Community forum 9th December




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SCV Circulation Study

14th October 2017

SCV Circulation Study

SCV circulation study

This study was pursued over the course of a year, and finished with a week-long public consultation during Spring Break 2015 inside the Brunel Centre.

There were many useful conversations, and these are sampled in Appendix II of the report.  

Since then, we have shared the report selectively with public officials.  However, now that plans for the bus station area are up in the air, it seems a good time to draw the attention of our members and other interested parties, to the opportunities for 2-way circulation and other improvements in the town centre of Swindon.

Opportunities identified: A heritage route from Swindon Works via the Railway Village and up Milton Road to the Rolleston Hotel.

Download the Swindon Civic Voice Town Centre circulation study here: SCV Circulation study

Download town centre comments data here: Town Centre Comments Data 230415

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Swindon Civic Voice 2017 AGM

25th September 2017

Swindon Civic Voice 2017 AGM and talk from Malcolm Shifrin


badge with swindon civic voice logo


In accordance with the constitution, members are hereby notified that the Annual General Meeting (AGM) of Swindon Civic Voice will be held on Thursday 19th October starting at 7:00pm at the Central Community Centre.

Former members, whose membership has recently lapsed, are also welcome to attend subject to paying the annual membership fee before the AGM begins.

New members are welcome to attend, subject to paying the annual membership fee before Tuesday 10th October.

The annual membership fee is still £5 per year (£2 for concessions).

£2 entry fee for members. £4 for non-members

Join on on the night and get the discount.

Find out more about membership here:

Central Community Centre has limited parking, which is available on a first-come basis.  Blue Badge holders can also park nearby.  Alternative car parking is available in Brunel North car park in Farnsby Street, which closes at 9.00pm.

Annual General Meeting Order of Business:
Welcome and apologies
To approve the Minutes of the last AGM held on 6th October 2016
To receive the Trustees’ Annual Report
To receive the Annual Accounts
To elect members to the Board of Trustees

It would be helpful to know if you will be attending. Please either confirm your attendance or send your apologies:

By email:

By telephone: 01793 520592

In writing: Swindon Civic Voice, C/o The Health Hydro, Milton Road,
Swindon, SN1 5JA

We look forward to seeing you.

Issued on behalf of the Trustees of Swindon Civic Voice on 25th September 2017.

Please note the following information about our AGM.

Members are eligible to stand as Trustees and we would very much welcome new Trustees. Please contact the office for a nomination form. Completed forms must be received in the office by Tuesday 10th October.

Additionally, we are pleased to let you know that Malcolm Shifrin, author of Victorian Turkish Baths (published by Historic England), has agreed to be our guest speaker at the AGM.

AGM and guest speaker: “He Wrote the Book on Victorian Turkish Baths!”







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Swindon’s Listed Buildings List

15th September 2017

Swindon’s Listed Buildings List

Thanks to Martin Newman, member and friend of Swindon Civic Voice, and heritage professional, for this fabulous blog post about Swindon’s listed buildings – well the list of them – if you follow?

Way back when, in their comic opera The Mikado, Gilbert and Sullivan wrote of him having a ‘little list’. Well – we’ve got a list of listed buildings in Swindon that’s far from being little! To find out more read on.

NB: There’s a brief bio of Martin at the bottom. Thank you Martin for a great post.

We’ve got a little list

2017 is the 70th anniversary of the Town and Country Planning Act. This might not immediately seem to be something worth celebrating. Yet this led to the first historic Buildings being listed.

Listing wasn’t the first heritage protection in England, Scheduling of archaeological sites had begun in 1882, but listing remains the best well know of the designations published on the National Heritage List for England (NHLE) as well as the one with the greatest number of entries.

At the time of writing there are 37,7675 Listed Buildings in England making up the majority of the nearly 400k sites on the NHLE.

Listing has also had an important impact on the Swindon where it has helped shaped the town as we know it today. The bar for listing is set quite high as a building has to be of ‘national importance’ following the principles of selection published by the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) and further clarified by Historic England’s Selection Guides.

So, bearing this in mind, it’s impressive that Swindon contains 659 Listed buildings. AND fifty-three Scheduled Monuments and three Registered Parks and Gardens!

Fig 1 - map

The first buildings to be listed were not in Swindon however. That honour goes to Great Yarmouth in Norfolk.

It took the inspectors four years to get to Swindon and on the 2nd October 1951 twenty buildings were listed in the town which remain on the list today:

  • Bath Road Museum Apsley House and Gate Piers
  • Tritton House
  • Manor House and Manor Cottage
  • Stables 6 Metres North of Manor House
  • Church of The Holy Rood
  • Corn Exchange and Town Hall
  • Church of St Mary
  • Goddard Arms Hotel
  • 18 High Street
  • Richard Jefferies Museum
  • Park Farmhouse
  • Square House
  • 8 and 8A High Street
  • Christ Church
  • 6 High Street
  • 16 High Street
  • Westlecot Manor
  • 8-12 Bath Road
  • Church of St Mark
  • Villetts House

As you can see there were some notable exceptions. The buildings of the Railway Village for example were not listed till 1970.

Listing continued to be a slow and process by 1959 only 931 areas completed with 73,310 buildings listed.

At this time lists were published by local authority areas and a resurvey began in 1968. Lists continued to be published this way until the process was computerised in a project lasting from 1994-7.

The area of Swindon was covered by two volumes and the lists published for Swindon before the process went digital were the 14th List for Thamesdown in 1986 with twelve later amendments and the 8th list for Thamesdown (Former Rural District of Highworth) in 1979, twenty-seven amendments.

Booklets - listings from DoE

There are a number of misconceptions about listing, one of which is that all the entries are buildings. Yet, as the example below shows, this milestone on Canal Walk is a listed building. One which you could easily trip over if you weren’t looking where you were going!

Possibly Swindon’s most unlikely listed building © Martin Newman - old canal distance marker

Possibly Swindon’s most unlikely listed building © Martin Newman

Swindon’s most recently listed building isn’t exactly a building either, it’s a red telephone box in Bishopstone (listed 17/01/17).

Bishopstone red telephone box

Bishopstone red telephone box – Photo copyright of Historic England

Another common misapprehension about listed buildings is that they are all ‘old’. A building can be listed after thirty years, or ten years for the higher grades. When the Renault (now Spectrum) building was listed in 2013 it was one of the youngest Listed Buildings in the country and took pride of place on the cover Designation Yearbook.

The Spectrum Building, Swindon - swindons listed buildings

Listed buildings from Swindon’s Railway Village also adorn the cover of a Historic England publication giving guidance to owners of Listed Buildings.

Guide for owners of listed buildings

Last year Historic England launched a new initiative, ‘Enriching The List’.

This scheme invited the public to share their knowledge about and photos of listings, or simply their personal reminiscences and family stories. Once moderated these contributions then appear with, but separated from the official list entry.

So far 581 contributions have been published for listings in Swindon – a good indication of how much people in the town care about the historic buildings around them.’

A bit about Martin:

Martin is the Listing Information manager at Historic England. He’s worked in the heritage sector since graduating from Bradford University with a BSc in Archaeological Sciences in 1990.

Although starting out his career as an archaeologist he now spends more of his time involved with historic buildings.

He is a Member of the Chartered Institute for Archaeologists and was elected a Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries in 2010. He is also a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts where he is an ambassador for their Heritage Identity and Place project and a Chartered Member of CILIP – Chartered Institute of Library and Information Professionals.

Martin has lived in Swindon for over 20 years and is a member of Swindon Civic Voice.


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Objection to Application for Market Street Re-development

13th September 2017

Objection to Application for Market Street Re-development: at 12 storeys

Picture of view to Market site at 12 storeys - market street redevelopment

Picture of view to Market site at 12 storeys

Picture of view to Market site at 12 storeys

PDF – Sketch 1 for objections to market street re-development A

PDF – Sketch 2 for objections to market street re-development B

The Council’s online planning portal:

Submitted by Swindon Civic Voice 22 August 2016

  • Separation of Issues

Swindon Civic Voice considers that any past objections by other parties to the loss of the market usage should be resolved by a consultation apropos of:

  • The need for a market in Swindon town centre
  • The type of market needed/viable
  • The location/s suitable for such a market.

Swindon Civic Voice wishes to see this consultation conducted.

It is our hope to use our website in due course to promote/support such a consultation and we would like for it to a collaboration with Swindon Borough Council.

We can envision at least two other locations worthy of consideration, besides the obvious interim usage of vacant shop units in the Fleet Street retail area.

  • The Issue of Proposed Uses

The ground floor use as shops/restaurants/cafes is sound in this location given the proximity to residential neighbourhoods, and to car parks.

The use of upper stories as residential units is also a good concentration at this location of entry to the retail area, next to existing residential areas.  The apartments in Farnsby Street, recent conversions from office blocks, present their own challenges and should not reduce confidence in quality provision next to Wharf Green.

Swindon Civic Voice are generally supportive of dense, quality apartments in Swindon’s town centre. In particular 2-bedroomed apartments that allow for sharing rental/mortgage, for home working, for a child’s bedroom or for a guest room. This sort of unit has a wider appeal than the current fashion for one-bedroom units. What’s more they promote more sociable, longer-stay communities.

We believe that this is the way to strengthen the retail core, and to re-use empty/tired sites. Notably those in the Bridge St. and Prince’s Street areas, as well as the market site and Morley St. areas.

We think consideration should be given to the flexibility of two-bedroom units. Such units allow for sharing rental/mortgage, for home working, for child’s bedroom, or for a guest room.  Units such as this have a wider appeal than the current fashion for one-bedroom units, and promote more sociable, longer-stay communities.

However, more than 100 units without ANY car parking is excessive, and likely to produce unhelpful outcomes.  We suggest that a connection might be possible via a pedestrian bridge between the proposed structure and the neighbouring car park.

We consider that twelve stories is not excessive in principle, against the backdrop of the Brunel Tower of twenty stories – which as a landmark could hold its own among others of lower height such as Jury’s Inn at eight storeys.  The height proposed is only a concern if a shadow study (which we have not seen) demonstrates an extended period of negative effect on Wharf Green/Market Street.  It would however be excessive if permitted on the proposed footprint.

  • The Footprint of the Proposed Site

Consideration does not seem to have been given to the appearance of the proposed structure from Farnsby Street/Faringdon Road.  At twelve (or even ten) stories, it would loom obstructively over that approach, which should be a welcoming one, as an entry point to the town centre.  Traffic and pedestrians approaching from this direction would find a towering prospect, rather than the pleasant Victorian focal point of the (renovated) shops in Commercial Road, appearing against the backdrop of Swindon hill behind them.  There is a sightline from the Railway Village up/down this vista.

We have given much time to considering the site, and have noted that it is a legacy of the 1970s re-working of the town centre road layout.  Until the one-way system was introduced, Farnsby Street was lined on both sides by Victorian redbrick terraces. The street did NOT connect with Commercial Road, as there was a canal in position until the 1960s, and the bridge was at Milton Road.

We understand now that a throughway developed after town unification in 1900, providing  a Victoria Road (newly completed) – to Commercial Road (newly developing) – to Milton Road route, linking the former Old Swindon and Faringdon Road at a junction featuring significant social premises (Baths, Hospital, Mechanics’ Institution).

From 1894, a market was established and developed into a well-built structure on the adjacent site to Commercial Rd/Milton Rd., serving until demolished in the late 1970s.

We have been told a councillor accused the old red brick market of ‘not matching the new Brunel Centre’ and left it as a shell wall around a carpark for almost 20 years.  The opportunity was missed in 1994 to re-align Farnsby Street, with a smoother sweep into Commercial.  Instead, that major entry point forces drivers to drive around the market site, and presents unpleasant crossings and frontages to pedestrians.

Elsewhere we have promoted the idea of 2-way traffic in Farnsby and Commercial Roads, with a more pedestrian-friendly ‘green, heritage’ route via Milton Road (which could become local access only).

Here, we are concerned to point out the missed opportunity to re-lay the former Market footprint, out of the roadway, and closer in toward Wharf Green – enhancing both frontages.  We also consider that land could be gained to the carpark side of the site.  This and Market Street were both connected to a through road grid before construction of the Brunel Centre in 1970’s.  They may therefore hide a range of service infrastructure beneath. But we believe the extension and shift northwards of the site might benefit in several ways.  This raises the fact of the ownership of the land being in the hands of Swindon Borough Council.

  1. Land Ownership: What is the Role of Swindon Council?

Swindon Civic Voice understand that the proposed site is owned by the Council and leased since 1994 to the market owners (who have changed hands a number of times/portfolios over the years).  The 100-year lease in 1994 would now be around seventy-seven years to run.  In the interest of a twelve-storey block rather than a twenty-five-year tent, surely a longer (999?) year lease will have to be negotiated.  The Council stands to earn from the extension of this lease. However, it also might attempt to influence the quality of this development by offering to re-negotiate a somewhat larger and better-placed site.  This could integrate more happily with Wharf Green, Brunel shops and Market Street shops.

At the same time, proposals might be sought for the council-owned surface level car park at the end of the shops, fronting onto Commercial Road.  There is a long planning history surrounding this site too. But its development should feature a structure that helps conceal the ramp and delivery access to the Brunel Tower.  Thought should also be given to the fact that the Deacon St/Market St axis leads up to the beautifully laid out Radnor St Cemetery. This itself offers dramatic views over Swindon, and views in both directions should be considered as part of the designs.

It seems entirely possible to holistically develop one whole access point to Swindon town centre that benefits residents, drivers, pedestrians, shoppers, and ratepayers all in one sweep.  It would be a step-change for Swindon, which has been plagued by piecemeal development for too long.

Swindon Civic Voice objects to the application on the current footprint of the site, in particular for its dominance of the uphill approach via Farnsby Street and for the lack of traffic and streetscape improvements required by the Swindon Local Plan.

NB: If you have any comments to make on this please email:

For a history of Swindon Market go here:

See also:  and

If you wish to make any comments to the council on the proposed new development you have until September 20th. 

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AGM and guest speaker: “He Wrote the Book on Victorian Turkish Baths!”

10th August 2017

Save the date: forthcoming talk and AGM: Thursday 19th October at Central Community Centre

“He Wrote the Book on Victorian Turkish Baths!”

Malcolm Shifrin is the author of the definitive Historic England publication “Victorian Turkish Baths”. 

Mr. Shifrin will outline the background to the evolution of Turkish Baths in Britain, and then focus on the Swindon Turkish Baths in Milton Road, now managed by Greenwich Leisure Limited.

Swindon’s Turkish Baths are one of only a few still operating in Britain, and feature in Mr. Shifrin’s beautifully illustrated book.

He will also explain the significance of Swindon GWR Medical Fund Society, which in the 1890s developed a full spectrum health facility in Milton Road in massive premises surrounding the Turkish Baths.

With the future of this facility a major talking point in Swindon recently, Swindon Civic Voice hopes to schedule another event later in the year to report on the current consultants’ study of the historic significance of this complex facility.

The talk will be preceded by SCVoice’s AGM, at 6.30.  Members are urged to attend in order to support the planned work for the coming year!

Limited Parking – suggest Brunel North carpark, open until 9pmWe’ve been super fortunate to secure the services of Malcolm Shifrin to talk at our AGM in October.

£2 entry fee for members. £4 for non-members

Join on on the night and get the discount.

SCV Membership

The admission fee to our talks (to cover venue costs and refreshments) is reduced for members of Swindon Civic Voice. So if you’re not a member now’s a good time!

It’s only £5 for a year or £2 if you’re unwaged. Find out more here:

Victorian Turkish Baths

Portico at Health Hydro - victorian turkish baths scv talk

Find out more about the Health Hydro:

The Health Hydro

Mr Shifrin has written a book on the subject. Taken from his website: ‘Malcolm’s unique book, Victorian Turkish Baths, is the first ever to be written on the subject, and was commissioned in 2011 by Historic England (formerly part of English Heritage).’

If you’re curious as to how his interest began: ‘In Bath in 1990, he happened to notice a decorated initial B on a stained glass door panel in a health club which had once been a Turkish bath. This was his introduction to the strange world of Charles Bartholomew who (falsely) claimed to have built the first modern Turkish bath in England. Finding that no one else had made a study of the Victorian Turkish bath, he determined that this was how he would spend his retirement.’

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I care about where I live

Civic Day: I care about where I live

I care about where I live - civic day

This year’s Civic Day was launched in the Houses of Parliament with the help of Civic Day 2016 award winners and their local MPs.

In advance of Civic Day on Saturday June 17th  we’d love you to get involved and tell us why you love Swindon and why you care about where you live.

Tweet us a picture of yourself holding the I care about where I live sign (download link below) to @SwindonV or post it on Facebook tagging Swindon Civic Voice:

 OR – make your own! Get creative – make your own sign to tell us why you love where you live.

Tell us why you care about where you live and use the hashtags #ICareAboutWhereILive and #CivicDay

Try and include the @civic_voice on your tweet too.

The link to the sign is on the Civic Voice website here:

Come on Swindon. Show everyone much you #ICareAboutWhereILive

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Civic Day 2017: Celebrating 50 years of Conservation Areas

30th May 2017

Civic Day 2017: Celebrating 50 years of Conservation Areas

Join us for national ‘Civic Day’ on Saturday 17th June from 11am – 4pm

SCV & MIT banner

FREE admission

The event on Facebook. 

This year Civic Day, which is led by the national Civic Voice charity, is celebrating 50 years of conservation areas. This provides a wonderful opportunity to celebrate and enjoy Swindon’s unique Railway Village Conservation Area.

national civic voice logo

Swindon Civic Voice and Mechanics’ Institution Trust, Swindon have teamed up to offer ‘Open Doors’ at four of Swindon’s treasured heritage assets: Milton Road Baths, the Railway Village Museum, Central Community Centre and The Baker’s Arms.

Guided tours of the Railway Village will also be given at 11am and 3pm. At 4pm there will be tea and cake and a special unveiling at Central Community Centre!

This event has been funded by, and with thanks to, The Midcounties Co-operative.

  • Free admission
  • Children welcomeFor enquiries: please email

If you’re feeling social you can find both organisations on social media:


Swindon Civic Voice:

The Mechanics’ Institute Trust:


Swindon Civic Voice: @SwindonV

Mechanics’ Institute Trust: @mechanics_trust

I care about where I live –  Civic Day 2017 launch event – Why do you care about where you live?

This year’s Civic Day was launched in the Houses of Parliament with the help of Civic Day 2016 award winners and their local MPs.

YOU TOO can get involved.

Tweet us a picture of yourself holding the Civic Day sign – link to download it below.

Tell us why you care about where you live and use the hashtags #ICareAboutWhereILive  and #CivicDay

Try and include the @civic_voice on your tweet too.

The link to the Civic Day sign is on the Civic Day website here:

Come on Swindon. Show everyone much you #ICareAboutWhereILive

Civic Day 2017


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Submission to council 1 & 3 Faringdon Road

Submission re Planning Application S/17/0368, 1 & 3 Faringdon Road Swindon

On behalf of ‘Swindon Civic Voice’, c/o Health Hydro, Milton Road Swindon SN1 5JB

1-3 Faringdon Road Swindon No2

17th April 2007

Swindon Civic Voice OBJECTS to the above application on the grounds of change of use and lack of public consultation.

The uses proposed, especially the conversion for sale of flats, have not been subject to public exploration of options.

Indeed Forward Swindon Ltd, as a wholly-owned SBC company has tried to avoid public consultation, even with the three expressly interested organisations. Namely:

  • Swindon Civic Voice
  • Mechanics’s Institution Trust
  • The central area residents’ improvement group.

A token evening ‘consultation’ with neighbouring businesses was exactly that: tokenistic.

We do not wish to make a lengthy objection. We believe that the Council should now respond to public interest by opening up access to what decision making process there might be to public consideration.

They should do this in their capacity as:

  • Trustees of the charitable fund owning the premises
  • The local government body
  • Owners of Forward Swindon Ltd.

1 and 3 Faringdon Road

We list related issues:

  • SBC refused Swindon Civic Voice’s request to have the premised listed as being potential Assets of Community Value – as promoted under the provisions of the Localities Act.

We disagreed with that decision and will now ppeal to MP Robert Buckland to investigate that decision and help us to ‘appeal’.

We’ll do this in the light of the lack of engagement with local groups that have expressed interest in occupying the premises to the benefit of the wider town community. And also the fact that further High Court decisions may be relevant.

  • The premises warrant listing and inclusion in the Railway Village Conservation Area, or at least exploration of its listing potential. We have not pursued listing ourselves, due to amount of effort required and lack of resources of time due to other priorities.
  • The introduction of flats is unnecessary and is a ‘throwaway’ of another of Swindon’s significant properties by dint of its location, its role in generation of charitable funds, and its proximity to Railway Village Conservation Area.
  • It’s understood that, at least 12 years ago, the Mechanics’ Trust promoted an application to the Heritage Lottery Fund for funding for an entire retail streetscape under the Townscape Heritage Initiative.

This effort was scuppered by the Conservation Officer at the time (now deceased) in a letter to Julia Drown MP. This letter stated that it was not of the quality HLF would consider. This is clearly untrue.

  • The Council has long intended to off-load these premises – since 1990 at least.  It has therefore neglected to invest in its upkeep. Any dereliction is due to the council’s own policy toward the premises.
  • The premises have been a key element in Swindon’s voluntary sector provision since 1932, and should be carefully examined for potential voluntary or community uses as part of any future decision.
  • The premises are now secure, and proper consideration can now be given without endangering the premises in the interim.

There is more that could be said in this vein. But what is required now is proper public scrutiny of the related issues, which all relate to council behaviour Vis-à-vis its citizens’ efforts.

We appeal to SBC/FSL to withdraw this application until such public scrutiny/consultation can be properly conducted.  

There is nothing financial or physical to be lost by doing so.  This focal, corner property has long been an eye-sore of the Council’s own making, and no rush to a ‘quick win’ decision in interest of town centre regeneration should be allowed to prevail. 

If this was an issue, then SBC should have responded to approaches from ourselves (Asset of Community Value application), and from Mechanics’ Trust (Townscape Heritage Initiative per HLF) a dozen years ago.

Finally Ken White’s whimsical painting of the building:

Ken white painting of faringdon house

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Waking up to Swindon’s Parishes: Thursday 16th March

Waking up to Swindon’s new parish councils

What opportunities do they offer to create more positive, coherent and supportive communities?

Next Swindon Civic Voice event on Thursday 16th March (7pm at Health Hydro) will focus on the future of the newly parished areas of Swindon.

We meet in the former Dispensary Room of the Health Hydro — one of Swindon’s inspiring, (yet) secret, spaces!

A panel will consider the following topics, and polite discussion will be encouraged.

  • What has been decided already?
  • Who can stand for the new Parish Councils?
  • What time commitment might be expected?
  • How might we keep them non-partisan (or party political) and neighbourly?
  • What could be the benefits? (and what might be the downsides?)
  • What will be the difference between the new Parish Councils and

Swindon Borough Council in terms of responsibilities, options and budgets?

  • Who can you persuade to stand who will represent your neighbourhood?

Our last event considered ‘the numbers game’ by which housing developments are determined for Swindon, and much light was shed on the issue.

On the panel are Chris Watts and Roger Ogle and the chair is Martha Parry.

Martha Parry is chair of Swindon Civic Voice. Chris Watts chaired the interim South Swindon Central Parish and Roger Ogle, late of Swindon Link Magazine, is a concerned citizen!

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